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BloodHorse Interview: Bloodstock Brokers on Fall Gross sales


Prematurely of the autumn yearling gross sales, BloodHorse spoke with 4 bloodstock brokers to ask them about their buy plans, how they really feel about the financial outlook, and which sires they’re fascinated with.

Title: Travis Durr

Affiliation: Proprietor/operator Travis Durr Coaching Heart in St. Matthews, S.C., and associate in Legion Bloodstock

BloodHorse: What’s your common shopping for plan heading into the autumn yearling gross sales?

TD: We’ll be shopping for largely for end-users to race. I will additionally perform a little yearling-to-2-year-old pinhooking, however we’ll be wanting 95% for horses for us to race.

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BH: What do you’re feeling from this financial local weather and the horse market?

TD: The one factor is it is an election 12 months, however I do not suppose that can cease us from what we have got occurring and our recreation plan.

BH: How a lot weight do you place on sires in your search?

TD: For us, we’re simply looking for the people. The sire impacts the ultimate worth, and there are some sires we possibly have not had luck with or have not carried out but, and it is arduous to go to that nicely. Then once more, there are some new sires which may not have had luck on the 2-year-old gross sales or within the early races that we nonetheless may discover helpful and be keen to strive. One of many benefits of getting a coaching middle is I get to see how these horses develop. I might need some horses by sires that I believe may be a bit extra late-developing, and we’d keep on them longer than the market does. For us that is the place the worth can are available in, shopping for progeny of a not-so-hot sire, however primarily we purchase the person.

The freshman sires are often scorching they usually drive the market. You are gonna must pay for them, not understanding how they’re gonna end up. After which these sires with 4 or 5 crops of runners, typically the market strikes on from them, and we will search for worth on them and possibly even get a bit pedigree, too, and never be combating everybody for that horse.

BH: Which sires are you most curious about seeing the progeny of this 12 months?

TD: From what I’ve already seen, I actually just like the Beau Liam  s. They’ve stood out to us from what we noticed final 12 months in November by way of the July and Saratoga gross sales. Clearly, the Yaupon  s are good, too. We have been on Complexity   final 12 months and he has come out and executed nicely. If we land on a sire as infants after which we land on them as yearlings once more, and they’re exhibiting the athleticism we search for, it looks like these are those who work out.

Picture: Anne M. Eberhardt

Nick Hines

Title: Nick Hines

Affiliation: Adviser with MyRaceHorse and likewise an unbiased bloodstock agent

BH: What’s your common shopping for plan heading into the autumn yearling gross sales?

NH: I have been pinhooking yearlings to 2-year-olds since 2011, and we have taken a pleasant little revenue three of the final 4 years. We had good success this previous season, so we’re seeking to do it once more.

For MyRacehorse, we’re on the lookout for yearlings who can flip into Saturday horses and get us to the subsequent stage.

BH: What do you’re feeling from this financial local weather and the market?

NH:I believe basically it has been a number of years since we misplaced the underside within the market. There are some new gamers within the recreation, particularly one. The names are on the market, however I personally consider it to be a little bit of mirage on the high.

There isn’t any center market now. It is feast or famine. There isn’t any actual basement and there’s a ceiling. As a purchaser, I believe there are alternatives. Good horses on the high promote for above market worth, however horses within the center market might be your worth.

It is tough as a result of when shopping for yearlings, you are making an attempt to get the web page and the athlete. With MyRacehorse, we have now to be a bit extra essential on bodily, and from a pedigree standpoint the web page must be there, too.

BH: How a lot weight do you place on sires in your shopping for plan?

NH: From my perspective, it is in all probability 60/40 and even 70/30 mare over stallion. I have a look at mare productiveness fairly a bit. An excellent sire can transfer up a mean mare, however what number of nice sires are there and what do the yearlings by them value? I’m not too essential of an unraced mare, however you might want to do some homework.

In pinhooking, we’re all the time looking out for the brand new faces on the town, the freshman stallions. As a pinhooker you typically have a look at as many freshman stallion horses as you may. You may have a bit little bit of benefit in that while you promote, the stallion is not uncovered but.

However from a pinhook perspective, I believe that is essential. I all the time go in with a mindset of asking, ‘If we did not promote, would we be OK to personal the horse?’ I believe when you go in with the perspective {that a} horse has to promote as a pinhook, you’ll find yourself shedding in the long run.

BH: Which sires are you most curious about seeing the progeny of this 12 months?

NH: Tiz the Legislation   clearly had the expertise and he got here from a barn in Barclay Tagg’s that runs a really easy program. I might have full confidence in Tiz the Legislation as a second-crop stallion, which usually we would not have a look at as a pinhook candidate.

It is a recreation of prompt gratification. Take a look at Audible, his horses are simply beginning to come round, and the market was prepared to maneuver on from him.

In MyRacehorse, we’re taking a look at each horse on the market. We purchased a Yaupon on the Saratoga sale that we’re enthusiastic about. I believe Yaupon is one new sire particularly that can have a optimistic strike price to start with. 

However typically talking for MyRacehorse, we’ll go after the confirmed product versus the shock within the field. Established sires similar to Twirling Sweet, Uncle Mo, possibly now an Omaha Seashore, are sires that I need to search for. On the high finish, I see Justify and Not This Time as locks. With Justify it could be a query of how deep is your pocketbook? I believe High quality Street nonetheless has an enormous probability of trending upward once more. The Twirling Candies are holding regular. Good Magic is one other one I like when you can afford them.

On the first-crop yearlings, Maxfield is intriguing to me. I beloved him as a racehorse. I do not know the way a lot prompt gratification you’re going to get with him being by Avenue Sense, however I beloved what he did on the racetrack. He appears to be the kind of horse that they allowed his pure expertise to do it on the racetrack.

One other new stallion I believe is fascinating is Independence Corridor. He may very well be a sleeper.

Jamie Hill at Fasig-Tipton October Yearlings sale on October 22, 2022.
Picture: Jetta Vaughns

Jamie Hill

Title: Jamie Hill

Affiliation: Co-owner of McMahon & Hill Bloodstock, and co-managing associate Bourbon Lane Steady racing partnership

BH: What’s your common shopping for plan heading into the autumn yearling gross sales?

JH: Our plan for Bourbon Lane is so as to add a filly. We already purchased two colts, and for our LLC partnerships, we like to purchase three horses to a gaggle. We really feel it provides our companions a greater probability to have a runner than only one horse.

We’re additionally wanting particularly for New York-breds. We’ve got a number of purchasers that race in New York.

After which we are going to look to fill out orders for particular person purchasers to race. If the suitable name is available in and considered one of our purchasers says let’s add a horse, we’ll have a pleasant checklist prepared for them.

We pinhook yearling to 2-year-olds each with Hidden Brook and likewise with Randy Miles and Bo Hunt.

BH: What do you’re feeling from this financial local weather and the horse market?

JH: I’ve acquired to say I used to be stunned by the power of each Saratoga gross sales. I used to be a bit involved with the inventory market dropping 1,000 factors the day earlier than the sale. I suppose at that stage, these guys aren’t nervous a few market correction. However to set a file at $82 million in gross sales was stunning to me. I’ve a sense Keeneland, at the least the primary few books, can be a continuation of that. I believe the center market is a troublesome sled proper now.

BH: How a lot weight do you place on sires in your shopping for plan?

JH: My father (Dr. Jim Hill) was fairly good at selecting out horses, and he all the time mentioned the mare is 70% of the deal. However to that finish, the breeding recreation has modified. A small group of sires will get all of the mares now. They’re the highest, confirmed successes or the first-year guys till they’re confirmed failures.

I do not suppose folks take probabilities with their good breeding inventory anymore. That is why you see so many by the highest sires. Any farm the place the sire is profitable, they’re breeding 200 mares to them now. 

BH: What sires are you most curious about seeing the progeny of this 12 months?

JH: There is a handful of stallions on the market proper now who do not have many 2-year-old winners, and persons are already asking, is he gonna make it? These stallions might be worth. In the event that they’re out of the suitable mare and have a superb bodily, we are going to purchase these yearlings.

On this present crop, McKinzie has been the horse for me. We’ve got a 2-year-old by him now. He did get harm in coaching main as much as his first begin, however he was simply totally different than the opposite horses. We went out and purchased two extra McKinzies. Between weanlings, yearlings, and 2-year-olds, I’ve seen a bunch by him who caught my eye. He’s seventh on the freshman sire checklist proper now, however he isn’t one who struck me as popping out and tearing up the world early. I believe they’re coming.

Scene: Bob Feld looking over Hip 2859, filly by Violence out of Paulownia at Timber Town on a rainy day. <br>
Keeneland September yearling sales on Sept. 22, 2021.
Picture: Anne M. Eberhardt

Bob Feld

Title: Bob Feld

Affiliation: Founder Bob Feld Bloodstock and associate in Feld Household Finds and Feld Household Racing with son Sean Feld

BH: What’s your common shopping for plan heading into the autumn yearling gross sales?

BF: We’ll be seeking to purchase for end-users and ourselves. We do not pinhook yearlings to 2-year-olds anymore however we do weanling to yearling.

BH: What do you’re feeling from this financial local weather and the horse market?

BF: I believe the market is robust in the suitable areas, similar to Keeneland, whereas the regional gross sales appear to be off. I do know California is struggling. What did they common at their most up-to-date sale, $6,000? However I discover the market on the higher-end gross sales continues to be very robust.

BH: How a lot weight do you place on sires in your shopping for plan? 

BF: I am going into it with none pre-judging. We purchase physicals, so we by no means know who the sire can be. We have executed nicely shopping for good physicals at honest costs and even underneath market, so we’re sticking with that program. We actually aren’t sire-oriented in any respect. My son and I have a look at each horse at each public sale. We are going to have a look at 2,000 horses every at Keeneland.

I all the time say, ‘Be like a Boy Scout, all the time ready.’ You by no means know in case you are gonna stumble upon somebody who says, ‘I desire a Derby horse, my funds is 300k.’ I all the time need to be prepared if one thing like that occurs.

Once I have a look at the checklist of nice horses we have now purchased and been concerned in, all of the sires have been considered as underachievers. That is how we purchased (classic-placed, grade 1 winner) Sizzling Rod Charlie for $17,000. Nobody was curious about an Oxbow. The sire simply tells you the way a lot you are going to must pay.

BH: You mentioned you aren’t sire-oriented, however are there any new sires which have caught your and Sean’s consideration?

BF: It’s enjoyable to have a look at your brief checklist and see which of them have essentially the most in your checklist. I have not seen sufficient numbers but, however we did land on a number of Beau Liams and Yaupons. These two sort of caught our eyes.

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